1911, black, serial no. 52482, body G-VG, shutter working but worm, bellows VG, ground glass G, with Goerz Dogmar f/4.5 13.5cm lens, optics G-VG, some light haze present, together with a Goerz Anschutz 4x5 folding strut camera, 1906, black, body G, wear throughout, bellows G, missing ground glass, with a Doppel-Anastigmat lens, optics P, heavy haze / fungus present,